[Open-graphics] Re: Digital 'scope & spectrum analyzer
Dieter
netbsd at sopwith.solgatos.com
Sun Mar 11 04:48:12 EDT 2007
> >>> You need to be able to *capture* the data in real time, in order to
> >>> do a single sweep mode, for non-periodic signals. The processing and
> >>> display of that data don't have to be real time.
> >> Yes, that is true for some applications, but unless this is a real time
> >> spectrum analyzer ($$$$) -- which is useful for some applications such
> >> as looking for noise and intermittent distortion -- you are going to be
> >> working with a stable periodic wave form.
> >
> > That was in reply to:
> >
> >>>> To be more specific,
> >>>> a digital oscilloscope displays a periodic signal on the screen and the
> >>>> refresh scans rather slowly from left to right.
> >
> > Single sweep mode is a very useful, often essential, feature for an
> > oscilloscope.
>
> Yes, a one shot scope is a useful device. With analog this was a scope
> with a storage CRT. With digital this requires a very fast flash ADC
> (perhaps more than one). I think that this is going to be rather
> expensive compared to a scanning type D-scope for stable AC signals.
So this "scanning" type would use a A/D with a fast sample time but a long
time between samples? It would collect data for a long time, and then
calculate a time or frequency domain graph? So what sort of bad things
happen when the signal isn't periodic? A time domain graph would be
impossible, right? Could you sample for a long time and get a frequency
domain graph that would be an average?
> The nice feature of one shot D-scopes is that they can record a lot more
> data than an analog one -- you can record a lot more data than will fit
> on the screen at once.
Very nice if the test is time consuming to set up, or worse, if it is a
destructive test. And you don't need a storage CRT or camera. Upload
the data easily, Remote access. Could be used for automated tests.
> This has always been a serious issue with an analog spectrum analyzer.
> In theory, it should be a Gaussian distribution. This is not realizable
> because it would have to extent to infinity. But even taking a
> polynomial distribution, it is still impossible to exactly realize a
> band pass filter with that response function. And, the filter also
> needs to have linear phase response. So, this -- the scan filter
> response shape -- is an important feature and something that is better
> in more expensive units.
>
> I suspect that the band pass response shape in these devices is not
> anything near a Gaussian response or linear phase.
Does this band pass response shape issue go away with a digital SA?
Digital filters class was a long time ago, but IIRC you can get any
response you want since it is math.
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