Bart van Leeuwen
bart at bartsplace.net
Sat Dec 4 07:27:59 EST 2004
On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 00:40:43 -0800, Paul G. Allen wrote
> (aside from the copyright holder of the name), who can say what the
> core of it is? I like it because it's stable, free, fast, and I can
> tweak it as I need/want to.
> I chalk your response up to flamebate and I'm annoyed at myself for
> taking it.
No, it was not flamebate, it was pointing out that to some people the fact
that you can tweak it as you want/need to is important also for a video driver.
> > What you also do not take into account is that there are more open source
> > platforms then Linux, and indeed, nvidia has decent support for FreeBSD as
> > well (and yes, I do use nvidia hardware also on it), but no netbsd or openbsd
> > support for example. Maybe not relevant for you, but it is relevant for
> We were on the subject of Linux, not FreeBSD, NetBSD, or
We are on the subject of open source software in general when discussing the
usefullness of the TS card versus other existing cards. I do not see why
bringing up other open source platforms is a problem.
> See above.
Ah, Linux 2.6 did not cause any trouble either for them?
> I find it hard to believe why you, or others, can't understand why
> it's not an ideal world, may never be, and that a company like
> NVIDIA, and TS, have to do what they can, as best they can, to stay
> in business in this less than ideal world. That means, unfortunately,
> that some things simply can't be fully disclosed. If they were, we
> could probably say goodbye to NVIDIA and anything like good 3D
> support for Linux, BSD, etc.
We want the world to be more ideal and see a possible way to do it. What is
your problem with that exactly?
> I understand many of the algorithms, math, etc. involved in 3D. I
> understand the ins and outs of designing fast hardware in silicon. I
> understand how difficult and time consuming it can be to make that
> hardware work as fast as possible with just the right software
> drivers. I also understand that sometimes you make a breakthrough
> that no one else has made that just happens to put you ahead of the
> competition. I also know first hand what it's like to have that
> breakthrough stolen and used by the competition (twice BTW). I fully
> understand why NVIDIA, ATI, Matrox, or anyone else would keep at
> least part of their 3D technology secret, even if they'd like to do otherwise.
If Linus had reasoned in the same way in the early 90s, we would not have had
> Dang, sucked into the flamebate again.
People having a wildly different opinion from yours makes for a flame war? please.
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